Episode 39

The Payton Years Joins The Pod To Eulogize The Men's Basketball Season, JT Daniels Visits Practice, Updates On Softball And Baseball, And Beaver Gym Heads To Pac-12 Championships

In this episode of the Belligerent Beavs Podcast, we're joined by Sam and Andy of The Payton Years podcast to eulogize the Men's Hoops season and finally lay it to eternal rest, get amped about the idea of JT Daniels under center for Football, update on Softball's weekend tournament and Baseball's opening of Pac-12 play against Washington State, and send the best of luck to Gym who is headed to the Pac-12 Championship in Utah next weekend.

• Transcription

  Look at Terry.

  The man keeps getting sucked back in like a black hole media world.

  He's on this podcast right now on mute with his camera camera op because he's writing about MLS.

  Nobody cares.

  Everyone just listens to stuff anyway, so I don't think anyone reads the written word anymore.

  What's up, you guys?

  Sorry I'm late.

  I was busy with my other Sunday evening commitment.

  Hasani Datson had an assist tonight on a goal that won the game for Minnesota over the New York Red Bulls.

  I just wrote all about it for a while, but that is why I'm late.

  But I'm here now to talk all things all.

  Oregon State sports.

  Sorry.

  Thank you for bearing with me.

  How has your been going?

  How are you guys?

  What have you been talking about without me?

  You?

  Yeah, it's you.

  I was trying to convince Benny to switch allegiances of his MLS teams.

  Join me on my non allegiance.

  Really?

  Minnesota plays the Quakes next week.

  Jp and I regret to inform you the Quakes are bad.

  They're really bad.

  I don't even watch the MLS and I know that they're bad.

  That's not true, Benny.

  I don't watch the MLS that much and I don't care.

  You don't care about MLS, but you do care about E 40.

  So JP, please play 5 seconds of what you know about the Earthquake not become the best team in MLS for all eternity after that song is a failure of front office management to an obscene degree.

  You had E 40 rapping about you.

  You know how long the entire state of Minnesota has been waiting for such an electrifying endorsement and none has come?

  I mean, E 40 about pretty much every team in the Bay Area.

  Prince wrote a song about the Vikings in Nine and it was the worst song Prince ever wrote.

  That's how you know.

  God is f****** with us.

  You're like, Prince can't write a bad song.

  Then Prince wrote a song about the Vikings and it was his only bad song that makes it so much worse.

  Like, if Prince had like 100 bad songs, he'd be like, oh, well, that's just like he has this.

  Was it Purple Rain?

  No, Purple Rain is not about the Viking.

  Purple Rain is not about the Viking.

  Terry title almost has exploded.

  It's about Vikings fans.

  Tears.

  No, it's not principal.

  Purple Rain is not about the Vikings.

  Purple Rain is about the end of the world.

  So I ask, how is it not about the Minnesota Vikings anyway?

  We're not here to talk about the Minnesota Vikings or their s*****, stupid, mediocre quarterback that's going to be here for a lot longer.

  Who shall remain nameless?

  We're here to talk about the best College sports fan base in the world.

  Oregon State University and all that goes with it.

  My name is Terry Horseman at Terry Horseman on Twitter, at Tanner Horseman on Instagram.

  I'm joined by my esteemed cohost, as always, JP Bertram.

  At JP Bertram, I'm waving on the IG JP's waving with both hands.

  That's weird.

  I've never done that before.

  And a dope chop them corridor war hat.

  By the way, that they don't make anymore.

  And at thetrial J on Twitter at the Real.

  And also join us from beautiful Tacoma, Washington, with Benny with the Good Quoth.

  It's Benjamin Lawrence Sebastian.

  Weh at Benny L 1986 on all of your social media channels.

  Hi, Benny.

  Look at you.

  Hey, look at me.

  Hey, wait.

  Every time you say Kwai, I think of the quaffer double shot glass.

  Do you guys remember those?

  Oh, the hourglass.

  Yeah.

  I think that was an amazing contraption that surely brought my GPA down.

  Is that the one that has a thing on it where you can spin?

  No, it's like the top float shot below.

  Like something else.

  Typically it's physics.

  It's physics, Terry's.

  Physics.

  You don't understand.

  Yeah, I was an arts major.

  I was definitely not a physics major.

  But I had a few Koiffer shots over at the Kings and Harrison Alley house.

  Shout out to funky Paul Alina, Doctor Ted Zava, and super secret producer Skinder.

  They had a Kwaffer shot glass.

  They shout out.

  Shout out to all three of those friends of the Pod.

  Yeah, that's amazing.

  And speaking of friends, we're going to be joined by a couple of friends on this episode.

  Both Samuel Whiteley and Andy Clark of the Paytoniers podcast are going to be here tonight.

  We're not just talking about Oregon State men's basketball.

  Let me make that very clear.

  We have planned an actual funeral for the men's basketball 20, 21, 22 season.

  Your team doesn't go three and 28 very often.

  No matter who you are in any sport.

  Your team doesn't have the worst season in team history very often.

  That can usually only happen once.

  That's how history works.

  So we could just come on here and be like, oh, f***, d*** it.

  No, we had to do this right.

  We're going full Irish wake mode, full blessings, ceremony readings, hymns and all that jazz.

  So they'll be here in a few minutes.

  And that will be the highlight of the episode.

  But we're going to get into everything that's happening.

  Baseball, softball, gymnastics, football rumors, football s*** that's happening.

  And baseball.

  Did I not say baseball half the time?

  I don't hear what you're saying.

  It deserves to be said twice.

  You really should listen to me.

  Since we're podcasting together, that's kind of how we say things and then you react to them.

  And that's what a conversation is.

  I just get lucky a lot when I talk, right?

  Well, I haven't been on mute this whole time.

  Someone who has been on mute this entire time is Super Secret producer Skinner.

  A lot of people challenged thinking that it's just the three of us.

  Super Secret Skins is here.

  As we've mentioned in previous episodes, we spilled beer over his keyboard.

  So his Zoom mic is stuck on mute.

  But he's still in the volume is also on mute and his volume is on mute.

  So he can't hear us, but he's sending talking points in the chat helping out.

  He's contributing as much as anyone.

  So there are four of us here.

  You can only hear the three of us.

  So shout out again to super secret producer Eskinder and our social media intern, Andre Nicotina.

  Nikki the Goat.

  But you can call him Nikki or Dre.

  But also remember, he's only in town for one Dre.

  So get in where you fit in.

  Anyway, it's a fun Sunday night.

  Sunday, Sunday with these idiots.

  What's going on, JP?

  I know you have your usual starburst double IPA, whatever in front of you, but you probably have something a little bit nicer or more maybe not nicer that's the wrong word, but a little more elusive, something rarer.

  You have another drink from a different brewery that we probably haven't talked about before.

  And then we want to give the people insight on.

  So what rank might that be, my friend?

  So I've actually had this brewery before on the show.

  Phase Three Brewing Company.

  They're in Illinois.

  Somewhere in Illinois.

  Lake Zurich.

  Remember that bit?

  It just sounded more fancy than Lake Zurich.

  So it's Lake Zurich.

  Phase Three Brewing Company.

  This is a double IPA, but the reason I picked it, I'm not trying to always pick a double IPA.

  I just have a lot of them.

  And I'm also not trying to pick a brewery that I've had before.

  I'm also also not trying to pick a brewery that's not local because I was actually going to have this.

  I mean, McMinn's is kind of local, but I was going to have that one.

  But I'm sharing.

  My wife got me that.

  I'm going to give her a taste.

  So I didn't want to drink it all unknowingly and forget to save herself.

  So I grabbed a different beer.

  But this one is very fitting.

  Because of our first segment with the funeral, there's one direction that that men's basketball team can go.

  And what is that.

  Up?

  The double IPA from Phase Three brewing.

  Really good.

  Jp, please play.

  5 seconds of coming up by all the Snow and Infant Sorrow.

  This will be our first fictional movie only character artist of a song that doesn't exist.

  Please play it.

  So don't do that thing where you don't actually play it, and then I look like an idiot.

  This is on Spotify and YouTube.

  You don't have any excuses.

  Coming up, all the snow is going on.

  I'm coming up.

  Okay, so Lake Zarich up.

  No.

  Lake Zarich.

  Lake Zurich.

  Sorry.

  As we know, you're defending all of the citizens.

  All of Illinois, which is very fancy and very Swiss.

  We know this.

  So Swiss.

  All right.

  Anything else on the beer or just what would your untapped score be?

  I gave it a pretty high.

  I think I gave it like a 4.4.

  Yeah, it's delicious.

  Have you ever given anything?

  A five?

  No, never.

  I've only given you 4.7.

  What?

  Yeah, man.

  Good thing you weren't a teacher.

  That would be tough to be in your class, right?

  Just straight C's for everyday student and then a curve.

  I had a class like that.

  You were in my class, Betty.

  You just came maybe 50% of the time I was enrolled.

  Yeah, I remember being enrolled in that class.

  What was the professor?

  He was hilarious.

  He kept talking about how you had, like, Katy Perry's phone number or something.

  Anyway, that was up and failed everyone on purpose and then just, like, had a massive curve.

  So you're like, C minus was an A that was in the auditorium.

  Like.

  Gilfelyn shout out.

  Friend of the pod?

  Not Kimberly?

  No.

  Courtney Gillfillan is a friend of the pod.

  Is friends with my wife Annie and her.

  That's named after her grandfather, I believe.

  Oh, no way.

  See, that's the cool thing about Oregon State is you get little tidbit stories like that.

  Yeah, I like that.

  Other colleges probably have that.

  Too, but I like that it's unique.

  I think we're the only University in the country that fosters personal connections of any kind.

  I saw you sip out of a can.

  What do you have?

  Do you have any contributions for this week, Ben?

  What are you working with?

  I do.

  Which Asian market is you shop at to buy this one?

  It is a brewery that we know and love that has a fake Oregon State founder.

  It is Deschutes, and it's Oregon State founder.

  It's the Little squeezy, which is an homage to, I don't know, baseball lingo all that well.

  So I don't know if it was a suicide squeeze, but I do know that we had a player on first and a player on third, and they both stole double steel.

  Well, double like a late steel.

  I call that in my head a suicide squeeze, even if it's not really one.

  So I have a little squeezy.

  The suicide squeeze is a bunch, but I love the sentiment there.

  And that was a cool play.

  That was awesome.

  That was the late steel home.

  These guys throw so hard, it feels like.

  Yeah, it's through the second.

  You could easily run from third to home.

  These guys throw so d*** hard at that level and above and even high school, that's not a normal thing to be able to steal home in any way.

  No.

  Who does he think he is?

  Benny the Jet.

  Don't talk about him.

  The two iconic images of stealing home in my brain are Benny the Jet and Jackie Robinson.

  One is fictional, one is very real and very historic, and both are for the Dodgers.

  So maybe the Giants could learn how to steal f****** home.

  Jp.

  I love Jackie.

  Allegiance has aside, Jackie Robinson, you're good at my book.

  Thank you.

  Way to go, out on a limb.

  Jp Jackie Robinson, even if you didn't want to play for the Giants, I understandable that's.

  Understandable?

  Yeah.

  Go, Jackie Robinson, we love you.

  Excellent beer choice, Benny.

  And again, shout out to the Chutes and University of Utah alum Gary Fish.

  Thank you for destroying the Ducks in football multiple times this year.

  We're basically a Utah podcast as well.

  I took a sip.

  So this isn't totally alive tasting as I've been doing the last few weeks, but I have a Tornado Drill IPA from Urban Growler Brewing Company.

  Urban Growler is a local breweries in St.

  Paul, Minnesota, just a whisper away from Minneapolis, Minnesota.

  It is March is Women's History Month, and Urban Growler is a woman owned breweries.

  Cool.

  That's very cool.

  Nice.

  I don't know.

  I meant to check this before hopping on the pod, but I was covering the Loon's footy match against the New York Red Bulls.

  I didn't do this.

  If you can order anything from Urban Growler domestically, I encourage you to do so.

  And if you're in the Midwest, I know we have Midwestern listeners hit up Urban Growler.

  It's a great spot.

  Not every tap room out here serves food and they serve food.

  That's amazing.

  They have a Reuben that's really f****** good.

  That I've had a couple of times, a Reuben and a few beers is just an incredible afternoon.

  So this is the Tornado Drill IPA, and we're in the Midwest, so tornado sirens are a thing.

  Benny, your family is in Iowa.

  You probably know about that.

  The description, which I love, is Hear the sirens.

  Be ready for a cyclone of tiny Orange flavor from Simco and Bergamot hops like the first Wednesday of the month of Minnesota tradition.

  So I think I have to drink this on the first Wednesday of every month from now on to Tornado Drill IPA from Urban Growing Brewing Company.

  Let's see what it is.

  Holy s***.

  That's fantastic.

  I think that this is my favorite beer I've drank live on the show.

  Maybe it's because I'm like trading it off with a Hams right now.

  That's so much better.

  Opening up.

  Wow, this one's really good.

  The car was really low before then.

  Very good.

  It's hoppy without the hops being super overbearing.

  And it's obviously not an IPA that I think I could drink many of, but I could drink a drink and drink a few of.

  You can double play something like that.

  So you said something that the sirens go every Wednesday.

  The first Wednesday every month.

  I did not know that until I read this copy.

  It's one of those things where I'll hear tornado sirens and I never think that the tornado.

  They're testing the tornado sirens?

  No.

  In San Francisco they do that every Tuesday at noon.

  Every Tuesday at noon.

  I think it was every Tuesday at noon.

  They did a tsunami alert siren and it was hella Erie.

  It sounded way old.

  And one thing this is like a totally off topic story, but I worked at a company where we were on an open, shared floor plan of, like, a bunch of different companies.

  And I thought it would be funny to set an automation on my Mac that played a Spotify playlist at noon every Tuesday.

  And it was like Belgian house music because it was like.

  And then the Belgian house music would start playing, and it was always funny, but I was always at my desk.

  Go ahead.

  I was always at my desk deposit.

  I went to lunch one day and forgot the automation also set my volume to ten on my Mac.

  I went to lunch one day, totally wasn't thinking about it.

  The siren goes off.

  I'm like, oh, I'm actually outside.

  I got to hear the siren for once.

  I came back, and there was, like, people surrounding my desk trying to figure out how to get into my laptop because it auto locked as I was away from it, and the volume was at ten.

  It was still operating the automation and playing Belgian house music like, full blast.

  So the whole office floor.

  The people that were not in your company.

  Yeah, literally.

  There was, like, 20 companies on a shared floor.

  So good.

  I can't believe you haven't shared that story with us before, but that doesn't surprise me at all.

  Do you remember that one time?

  But this particular time, maybe it's hard to say junior or senior year because what year is that really referring to?

  But there was a year in Corvallis where you went into my room at the fraternity that we were all a part of, and this was back in the day.

  Kids, listen to this.

  There used to be a machine called an ipod that was like your phone, but it only played music, and then it had a thing where you could plug it.

  It played music, but you could also plug it into a dock that had a speaker and you can play it publicly.

  In my bedroom was such a dock and such an iPod.

  Jp goes into my room one night fairly early.

  Let's say it's 09:00 p.m.

  10:00 p.m.

  And plugs the iPad into the dock and plays hot tubing on the late night by our good friend Ashcon.

  Jason, please play 5 seconds of hot tubing on the late night by Ashcon.

  Now that that is played.

  So it's that song.

  It's a brilliant song.

  We love it.

  We love that song.

  It was a big song in our friend group.

  Big song in the fraternity that we were in.

  It was present in 2089 ish Corvallis.

  What you did, though, was you turned the volume on the dock all the way up to f****** eleven, which was loud.

  Left my room.

  No, you forgot what I did before I left your room because I was trying to punk you.

  And so I climbed up.

  You had track lighting in the room yeah, like track lighting.

  And I climbed up on every piece of furniture I could stand on and took out like eight light bulbs out of your ceiling.

  I do remember this.

  Such a great prank.

  And the full volume Ashcon was just the cherry on top, expecting I would return to a dark room in Ashcon playing really loud.

  I don't know.

  I don't know what your thought process was.

  I didn't really have one.

  I just wanted it to be me.

  I did not come home.

  It was my GF at the time.

  Good friend of the pause, Stephanie Warner.

  Shout out Steph.

  Hi, Stephanie.

  Stephanie Peters.

  Sure.

  So what ended up happening was this.

  That song playing on repeat for like 16 hours.

  As loud as JP.

  Please play 5 Seconds of Hot Tub on Late Night by Ashcon.

  Again, listener, turn your volume in your car or your phone, wherever your listeners turn it all the way up.

  This was happening in a house that like 40 people lived in, me included, for almost an entire day.

  And no one could get into my room to turn it.

  Not to mention your room was in the actual center of the house.

  The middle of the you couldn't be any more middle of the house than this room was.

  Everyone could hear it.

  It got everywhere and I got back and my door was removed from its hinges and I had no track lighting.

  And I was like, what the f*** just happened?

  So it's like, oh, JP had some genius prank.

  This is the result of it.

  It was better if I knew you were going to come home at night in the dark, not the next day in the Sunshine where you can easily see that your light bulbs are all in a drawer.

  It's like one of those total College kids plastic drawers.

  Like the steps you can like, stackable once you get a bed bath that took all of the light bulbs off and put them in the drawer.

  And I was like.

  I'll never find these.

  Mind you, this is before the days of having an iPhone where you could just pull down your screen and hit a flashlight.

  Yeah, you had to actually have a flashlight to see in the dark.

  You'll never find Vs in this transparent drawer.

  Well, at nighttime you wouldn't.

  Great, Frank.

  I'm still laughing about it.

  Thank you for playing 5 Seconds of Hot Tub and on a late night.

  Anyway, let's move into the actual s***.

  Thank you all for being here.

  We're having an official funeral service for the 2021 2022 men's basketball season.

  We'll be getting into all the other Oregon State sports afterwards.

  But this is an official ceremony.

  So thank you for being here.

  But before we get into that, just before we start talking about all of the things that suck and are sad and we're just talking about other podcasts, I did have some time this weekend to dive into some other Organ State content on the Internet.

  And I was listening to those d*** sports podcasts on the Orange Media Network, which is co hosted by Ryan Harlan, a devoted listener of Belligerent Beaver and active on Belligerent Beavers Twitter, along with his pals Andre Stellos Santos and Ben Rubino.

  They're doing an awesome job with that podcast.

  It's awesome to see more Oregon State podcasts on the Internet and in the world.

  So props to you, young fellas, and keep up the great work.

  There's many episodes already and some great one on one interviews they have with different Oregon State athletes as well.

  So good job, you guys, and keep up the good work.

  We love to see us out.

  We'll come on your pod.

  You can come on our pod.

  That's what this is for.

  Family what all this stuff is for.

  But the reason we're here is to lay this troubled bird of the Oregon State vent basketball season.

  And JP, I'm going to ask you, please cue the debut of the Belligerent Beast Orchestra, who will be playing during the duration of this ceremony.

  But before you do that, please play the first 5 seconds of let's Go Crazy by Prince.

  We have gathered into this thing called Electric word life.

  It means forever.

  And that's a mighty long time.

  Death is another word that means a mighty long time.

  And the death of the 2021 22 Oregon State men's basketball team is what brings us here today.

  On this sovereign occasion.

  As an opening blessing, the Irish say death leaves a heartache no one can heal, but love leaves a memory no one can steal.

  The life of the Oregon statement's basketball team came to its tragic end last Wednesday in Las Vegas at the hands of our bitter rivals, the Oregon Ducks.

  F*** them.

  We are joined tonight not only by Prince from the Great Blacktop in the sky, but also by brothers Andy Clark and Sam Whitely of the Payton Youth Podcast, who are in Vegas to witness this personal and gross execution and are here tonight to help us lay said treble Bird to rest.

  The Oregon State men's basketball team accumulated a record of three wins and 28 losses this year.

  They have yet to win a single game in 2022.

  College basketball experts across the nation have described this team as bad.

  Now, as this men's hoop season passes from the present to the arena eternal, we'd like to offer these parting words and blessings for our favorite team.

  And we're just going to go around the room.

  I trust you all have words prepared for this occasion.

  Sam, why don't we start with you?

  Do you have anything that you would like to say about this team on this occasion?

  Jesus, that is a h*** of a speech to follow.

  Welcome to our lives.

  I kind of feel like the Oregon State men's basketball team.

  I'm going to fail in topping what you just all good.

  Well, be from the heart, brother.

  This is a safe space.

  Being as close to the whole thing as Andy and I have become, obviously even before we did the podcast, but especially now, it's a very painful thing to develop relationships with a group of people and watch it become an outright disaster at some point, to a degree that truly no one could have comprehended.

  And I think there's still a small part of me as we just get back from Vegas that is still trying to piece together the fact that they really did go through being 28, how many one possession games were lost, how many opportunities they had to shift this at some point and just none of them worked.

  And yeah, f*** the Ducks.

  There you go.

  That's the best way to close any eulogy.

  As it is written in the third chapter of the Book of Tinkle.

  F*** the Ducks.

  Jp, let's pass the torch and the mic to you.

  Yeah.

  I feel like with this season especially, there was so much hope.

  We listened back at some early episodes of our own podcast and the excitement we had for basketball was unprecedented in any of our Oregon State men's basketball fan hoods.

  It went in the complete opposite direction.

  I do want to try to gather some positive thoughts from the season, and if I have to at least pinpoint one of them, it was the development of Glenn Taylor Jr.

  The future looks bright with him.

  I really, sincerely hope that he sticks around.

  But something to hang our hats on and even the toughest of times was that our priced freshman is showing a lot of promise and got a lot of playing time early.

  So while it was a rough season and it was essentially the exact opposite of anything I ever expected to happen this year, there were still some positives.

  And I think that Glen Taylor Jr.

  Was probably the shining star of that positivity.

  Glenn Taylor, Jr.

  Member of the Pack Twelve all freshman team.

  First organization to do so, and I believe a long time.

  It's 2000.

  And do you know off the top of your head who it was in 2000?

  No, I don't.

  I just remember that thinking like, oh, wow, over 20 years since we've had one of the top five freshmen in the League Park.

  Jay Cunningham didn't all freshman?

  No.

  Oh, d***.

  That was Bieber bias.

  He should have.

  I believe it was Brian Jackson.

  I will fact check that.

  But it's either Brian Jackson or Jimmy Haywood.

  Maybe shouts to all of those people.

  Glenn Taylor, Jr.

  Brian Jackson and Jimmy Haywood.

  It was not Marcel Jones.

  I know that much for sure.

  Chris Hughes.

  No.

  Liam Hughes dog.

  And with that, I'd like to welcome our next guest, Liam Hughes.

  Liam, what are your thoughts?

  That's really in.

  This is a ceremony of passing, so I'd like to keep it official and ceremonial.

  Let's move the Goblet of pain and sorrow along to Andy, what do you have to say here on this day of Oregon State men's Hoops pain?

  You know, I am a special Ed teacher, so it's naturally really hard for me to say anything negative, ever.

  And I think the number one takeaway from this season is that we learned something.

  And what we learned as Sam already alluded to is that the Beaver bias is so ingrained in the universe that if we have a season like last year where everything goes right for the first time in program history, then the pendulum is going to swing back the complete opposite direction and make sure every single thing goes wrong this year.

  And I think that's really what we saw.

  Just injuries decimated the team, your point guard having mental health issues, having to take some time back to reevaluate that just sampled hitting 56% of their three.

  Everything we lost to a team of trust fund kids at Princeton, me and Sam, before the season really got trial.

  We were making a list of why every team Oregon State lost to was actually really good.

  And then we got to the Pac Twelve tournament or to the Pack Twelve, and the package was terrible.

  This year, they might be a three team bid, so we can't even say that.

  So it was just interesting to learn that in addition to the Beaver, bias is so strong that it took down most of the teams in the Pack Twelve with it just to make a worse season.

  Shout out to Glenn Taylor.

  I want to say shout out to Warfare Tisha, because we've been watching a lot of games in person, and I have so much respect for that kid because you could tell he played through so much pain this year.

  I think that's the one thing that people are, like, not bringing up a lot, like you bring up the loss of Ethan Thompson.

  I hear that all the time, but really, this team had to deal with essentially the loss of Morrie.

  Even though he's not, he's still on the team, he's still playing.

  But I'm not sure what his injury diagnosis, what he's playing through, but you can just tell he's limping around.

  They didn't even play in the second half of the Oregon team.

  And so I think while it was a terrible season, I really do want to take my hat off to these kids for just putting their heads down, trying their best.

  I don't think you saw him give it even towards the end of the season.

  We had like, what, two overtime games in the last four games of the regular season when they could have easily just packed it all in.

  And I also want to give a shout out to the Oregon State players that we saw gambling at the casino at 02:00 A.m..

  Yeah, let me take them all the way down, which I think is a good thing for all of us fans.

  I heard that rumor.

  I heard that rumor.

  Somebody planted that in our DMs that they were out and enjoying their time in Vegas.

  Like one should, of course.

  Good for them.

  I talked about it with one of my friends who I was texting with, and I was like, you know what?

  Honestly, the team.

  It's not good enough for me to ask you to sacrifice the fun of your youth.

  I think I'd be mad if I heard that none of them went out for sure.

  They seem like cool kids.

  I know that the Oregon game had its ups and downs.

  This last Oregon game in the first round of Foxball tournament.

  Can you imagine?

  We had beat Oregon and then the rumor came out.

  And just the way that social media works, it wouldn't have been a few kids or at the casino.

  The rumor would have been the entire team was gambling until 04:00 a.m..

  And then they came out and beat the Ducks in the first round.

  There would never be a more team of destiny.

  Let's rally behind these kids type moments.

  Lucas would have been running a craft table screaming.

  Lucas would have gotten himself in a conundrum where he would need to throw the next game for some like Qatari Prince, who built like $10 million on Oregon State to take the under the next day.

  We're so close to that happening.

  But I'm glad you brought up Samford Andy.

  After we lost that game to Sanford, I got on this podcast.

  I think it was the night of that loss and channeled my inner step brother's, quoting and yelled, I smoked pot with Sammy Ford and neither JP or Benny got it.

  I did.

  Well, you didn't laugh at it, really.

  It just wasn't funny at the moment.

  It was maybe my favorite joke I've ever made.

  I'm not that funny.

  We're all pretty funny.

  But I was like, Benny and JP will love this delivered it.

  But yes, I did smoke pot with Sammy Ford and Sammy Ford smoked us.

  And that was a signal for what the rest of the season was going to look like.

  But let's keep the candle passing.

  Move it on to you.

  Page Benjamin Lawrence Sebastian.

  We hate with the cool cloth.

  Benny, do you have anything you would like to say?

  May the roads rise up to meet you.

  You literally just Googled Irish blessings.

  Did it?

  No, I looked up Irish waketos.

  There you go.

  Sorry.

  I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, but I will say that I think Oregon State is the only, if not one of the few power five schools that has a fan base where after making the Elite Eight and then going and winning three games the next season, you have a group of people who are trying to understand where the players are coming from and aren't booing them off the court.

  And I think that's a really good thing.

  It can be frustrating, and I feed into it, too.

  But I think that.

  It is what it is.

  I guess I can't think of anything else to say.

  This team was the most frustrating team to watch.

  We had such high hopes for them.

  Terry, I know you said you don't expect them to go to the Elite Eight, but I think expecting them to go to the tournament would have been a reasonable expectation.

  But it's tough to get mad at them because, Andy, like you said, they had two overtime games in the last month of the season.

  You saw signs of a team that has not won a game in 2022 showing up of frustration.

  But I don't think you saw any quit on this team.

  And I think that's a testament to the players, obviously, but also to Tinkle.

  And I was actually really happy to see the lack of people wanting Tinkle gone this season because I think that if you go three and what, 28 three and 29 ended up being the final record at a power five school, 95% of them, you're seeing coaches, fans wanting coaches gone.

  Yeah.

  But I do think it's a testament to Tinkle to have this team at least stick it out and not quit on each other or quit on him.

  So that is my silver lining.

  And I do feel good going in to next season.

  Obviously, it's not the bar set pretty low for improvement, but I think that we have at least a foundation to build on.

  At least, I hope I would predict that we may not make the Elite Eight next year.

  I think we'll win more games than we did this year.

  It will be somewhere in between.

  That's my very bold, very courageous prediction.

  And in that light, I would like to manifest some positivity for next season and then we can end this ceremony.

  But people ask how the 2021 Beavers were able to do what they did and make the Elite Eight in that season where everyone thought they're going to be last.

  And I think it's pretty simple.

  They had a bomb catchphrase.

  Of course, we all remember when every writer in the conference picked the Vs to finish last in the conference, and it was the very same coach Tinkle who very coily and very pedally said not twelve.

  And that got us to the Elite Eight.

  And then this year we were the epitome of twelve or twelve.

  We are twelve.

  But last year we were not twelve.

  The bias pendulum swing.

  Terry, but going be like by saying we won't be twelve at the very beginning of the year and just that sort of like coaches will be like, you never talk about us when they get talked about plenty.

  The power rankings hate us when they're like ten spots above what they're supposed to.

  That was that kind of just irrational coach speak.

  That really works, though, and that's what we need for next year.

  So even though this is fairly cliche and it doesn't just speak to us.

  But it's something that does happen in sports and in life.

  We are moving on from not twelve, and we're moving on from this year.

  And I'm manifesting a resurgence at legendary Gil Coliseum, where the Oregon State Beavers basketball team quite literally goes worst, too first.

  Worst too first.

  I love it.

  Exactly.

  Go Beaves, chop them.

  There's always next year.

  And you can't spell chop them without hope.

  M************.

  And I'm so happy the Orchestra is still playing this beautiful.

  Listeners are happy.

  Oh, the listeners love this.

  Does anyone else have any other closing remarks?

  Before we say Amen and put to bed this awful.

  Dreadful season, I just want to say that I think Oregon State should make a play to get Will Wade as an assistant coach.

  I like that.

  Yes, I wouldn't mind having an assistant coach at this point who's dealt with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, because right now the deck is stacked against us, and that is something we need to understand about the Pack Twelve.

  The nature of big time College sports, and specifically College basketball, is that the deck is stacked against the Beavers in ways that go far beyond what we can understand is the common fan.

  And so for that reason, I am putting Larry Eustace Will Wade out of jail now, and his showcase is over.

  If Bruce Pearl gets in trouble at Auburn, join staff.

  I'll say hello to you.

  If they bring us back to practice, I won't ask the wrong questions.

  No, we'd for sure be leading all of Du one in hours spent in depositions previously in College basketball.

  I feel like that's the strength.

  Well, Louisiana State is certainly the institution that holds that title, and we did try to poach their President.

  It didn't work.

  No, it didn't.

  The logic was sound.

  The background check was not sound.

  But the logic was sound anyways.

  Well, thank you all for preparing some words of wisdom and hope for this team.

  I would like to bring the formal part of our ceremony to a close by requesting to you, JP, please play 5 seconds of the Luther Vandross version of One Shining Moment.

  Thank you guys so much for being here.

  It's really fun having just people who are vested in Oregon State men's basketball to go through this bullshit with.

  I didn't have as much fun this year as I did last year, clearly, but it's like being more engaged.

  I don't know.

  I still had a good time.

  I enjoyed all three wins in 2021, and I look forward to enjoying a win or two in fall of 2022.

  The painting years will always be here.

  We'll be here with the cockroaches when it all Burns down.

  But we really appreciate what you guys do in bringing more awareness and passion to Oregon State athletics in general, and probably more awareness to our podcast because you have, like, 1000 more listeners than we do.

  I don't know if that's true.

  I did think you guys got better as things got worse.

  I saw more tweets, I saw everyone liking and replying, and just like more episodes.

  I'm like, God, these guys really love hurting more than anyone else I know.

  Yeah.

  Honestly, tune into the Painters if you're not already.

  I don't know why you listen to us and not them when you want to get a real recap on a game and understand far beyond.

  Just like if we won or lost, you should tune in to the Pain years because their coverage is definitely amazing and their insights are awesome and they're cool, dudes.

  So tune in.

  Thank you guys for jumping on today as well.

  We appreciate it.

  Hey, we appreciate you guys.

  Next year.

  We'll do it at the Pac Twelve tournament.

  Yeah, let's do it.

  Let's commit right now, even if it seems three and 27, we're all going to Vegas for the past.

  Especially if we're three and 27.

  I want to put the call out to all of Beaver Nation, which Andy and I learned this weekend technically is not the fan base.

  It's people that give you got to be a part of either the faculty, essentially, or give enough money to truly Beaver Nation.

  That was a bummer.

  But regardless.

  Really?

  Yeah, it sounds exclusive now.

  That's why we say Beaver FAM.

  That's more encompassing.

  All of Beaver FAM is someone that's been to most of the Oregon State ball games in my lifetime.

  Obviously, more of them happened when I was a child.

  The experience of going to the Pack Twelve tournament trumps it tenfold.

  It is an incredible thing to be around all the fans, to see that many games.

  And we did it when they were in a three and 27 season, then watch them lose to the f****** Ducks.

  It only gets better than that.

  I encourage everybody to go.

  It is so fun.

  We don't all need to see in person.

  Utah State kick our a** in a third tier ball game.

  It's also low key.

  A great weekend to be in Vegas because the first weekend of March Madness is sort of that benchmark Vegas weekend.

  But if you go during the Pact Twelve tournament, you're there when all the other conference tournaments are happening too.

  So it's like as many College basketball games happening.

  But the sports books aren't as crowded as they would be during first week of March Madness.

  So I remember that being like a real fun perk of it when Super Secret Skinner and I went.

  I want to go next year.

  And you like betting Benny?

  I do.

  It was crazy.

  Sam.

  Andy, thanks a lot.

  F*** the Ducks.

  We get one.

  F*** the Ducks.

  Of course we'll give you two.

  Yes.

  F*** the Ducks.

  F*** the Ducks twice.

  Thank you, guys.

  We love you.

  Listen to the Painters podcast wherever you get your podcast.

  Thanks, guys.

  Football is JT Daniels here for a prank?

  Georgia quarterback.

  Former Georgia quarterback JT Daniels, who's officially in the transfer portal, visited Oregon State this past week, was at the practice, watch the Bees play in Corvallis.

  This is the biggest recruiting name that has ever been connected to Oregon State football.

  Sure, he's had two years at USC.

  Now Georgia some injuries.

  He's still a phenomenal quarterback.

  And there are some other points to unpack here.

  But we were talking about spring football before, like a few weeks ago, like spring football.

  We just don't want anyone to get hurt.

  We can't really pay attention to anything anyone's saying because there's nothing to beat.

  Nothing's going to rock the boat that much in the spring football.

  Now JT Daniels is on campus.

  Holy s***.

  So, yeah, JT Daniels, we don't know what the timeline is if he's going to announce a new school.

  I think it's supposed to be by end of March.

  He wants to graduate from Georgia.

  Yes, end of spring football.

  Well, our UDub correspondent who goes by Bobby Ganoush because he doesn't like us using his real name on the podcast, but reminded me that before JT Daniels committed to USC, he took an official to UW when Jonathan Smith was the offensive coordinator.

  And the rumor is that both JT Daniels and JT Daniels dad really liked Jonathan Smith.

  And now Jonathan Smith's at Oregon State.

  Former quarterback himself, maybe a quarterback friendly offense, lots of fun receivers.

  Looking at our schedule next year, I wouldn't say we have the same sort of Nflready SEC defenses bearing down on the quarterback the same way.

  Like this really could be a match made in heaven.

  Yes, I agree.

  And that's one of the things that's very interesting about this.

  Obviously, it's super exciting to have at least a high school caliber player like JT Daniels on campus doing any sort of visit at all.

  But he hasn't really panned out in his two spots.

  And I do think that it'd be a huge for the program if he did make the jump.

  But you never really can trust a player on their third school.

  Not to say this wouldn't work out if he did come, but there's a reason for it.

  But I think what works in his advantage and to our advantage is what you're saying.

  The relationship with John Smith, that Jonathan Smith is truly a quarterback Whisperer, that this team has so many weapons in a great offensive line.

  So if you're looking to join, if you're a free agent, which essentially JT is right now, if you're a free agent in NFL and you're coming for one last year, what are you looking for?

  You're looking for an opportunity to win.

  You're looking for a lot of threats on offense.

  You're looking for a coach that can help get you over a hump, especially if you're a player who's kind of under delivered on what their promise was out of high school, giving whether or not now you want to put that all together to have a fun season and boost your opportunity of playing at the next level or getting the next contract and winning.

  So we kind of check all those boxes for somebody like him.

  That's why I don't think this was all for a show.

  I don't think that this was like a big facade or big lie or whatever.

  I do think that there's some sincere interest here on both sides because it's mutually beneficial and it would take Oregon State's program to not just next season a new height, but it establishes us as a place that former five star players can go and potentially excel if all things go right.

  Right.

  I've heard what you just said, echoed by a lot of Beaver fans or really just like College football fans, which is JT, he's going to be on his third school, but keep in mind, he got injured at USC and then he lost a spot to a five star quarterback or another five star quarterback at Georgia.

  You also got Georgia, too, but not serious.

  Sorry.

  I don't want to completely interrupt you, Benny, but I think he's better than Sets and Bennett.

  I think the argument which could definitely be made.

  But I agree with you that he's on his third school.

  So that's a little bit what's going on there.

  But I think that there are valid arguments to be made for why it didn't work out at the first two schools.

  I will say that like USC, Georgia, you think they're a football program and you think a ton of pressure and you don't necessarily want a quarterback that doesn't do well with pressure.

  But I think those schools are pressure in a different way than pressure in a big game would be that pressure is just continuous and it could wear somebody down who doesn't have sort of the right mindset for it.

  And that's not to say that they can't excel at some place like Oregon State, a school that doesn't put as much pressure on their quarterbacks.

  The other thing that I would add to everything that you had mentioned of why Oregon State would be a logical landing space is look at Oregon State's track record of quarterbacks in the NFL, and you have quite a few who have made that leap.

  And so I think you can say I can go to this place where I'm not going to have the pressure bearing down on me.

  I have a coach that I know has their best interest in me.

  I'm really not going to be in a competition with anybody else for the job.

  I know it's mine.

  If I go there and they have a proven track record of getting players in my position to the place where I want to go, I think it matchmaiden heaven for both of them.

  I would not be surprised if he doesn't go to Augusta.

  I wouldn't be surprised but come on.

  I think it would be a smart choice for him to do it.

  But I wouldn't be surprised because of our historical track record recently.

  At least I know West Virginia is also in the mix.

  Yes, there was one other school.

  Too ptaml tweeted about it.

  But yeah.

  So obviously we're going to be paying a lot of attention to this.

  I thought you were paying him a lot of money.

  We're going to be paying them a lot of money.

  And at this point, I'd like to announce the first name image like Ms.

  Belligerent Beasts athlete J Daniels.

  Thank you to the seven Patreon members.

  This is how we're able to Daniel's millions of dollars.

  That's where your money is going towards.

  No, that's not what's happened.

  But I will be doing backflips if he comes.

  Yeah.

  I was just going to ask how excited would you guys be and what do you think?

  I guess this is sort of a loaded question, but where would you consider Oregon State right now and where if JT.

  Daniel signs, would you put them in terms of like, their potential finish in the back door?

  I have a one or two in the north right now.

  I do.

  I think that there's still a chance that because of it being maybe a down year with some of the changes within other longstanding, high level, high caliber programs and this would just cement it.

  That's what I think.

  And I think not just cement it and then get run over in the patrol Championship game.

  It's like cement it and have a real shot of winning it at all in the conference.

  The north is so wide open this year.

  Yeah, exactly.

  Going in.

  And if I'm submitting an official rankings, I will put Oregon at number one in the north at the moment begrudgingly and then I will slap myself in the face in the bathroom for 40 minutes for doing that to the Duck fans who f*** with me on Twitter.

  I do think your team is right now the best team in the package of north, probably.

  But there's a lot of s*** to happen.

  Udub could bounce back and be great.

  I don't think they will, but they could.

  There's a lot of talk that the program has already turned a big corner.

  Like people, there's a lot of chatter.

  They're going to surprise everybody.

  So they say, yeah.

  I can do that.

  That's insane.

  Yeah.

  That's why the culture changed.

  Oh, right.

  Yeah.

  So now that he's gone.

  Sorry, I heard you say that they're going to do it and I'm like, am I in the Twilight Zone?

  No, they're going to come back with a vengeance.

  And it was just a culture coach thing, not a talent thing.

  Right.

  Well, they always have talent and they recruit well.

  And that Stadium is beautiful, so it's hard to count out the dogs.

  I think Wazoo will probably take a step back.

  They may not.

  You'd never really know with Wazoo.

  Delorea was like a huge part of it.

  I know.

  I was shocked to hear that he transferred and then I think we're better than calendar.

  I think we're two in the north right now.

  And if you add JT Daniels, say JT Daniels announces right now he's coming to Oregon State.

  Then the starting quarterbacks at Oregon State and Oregon are JT Daniels at Oregon State and Bonicks at Oregon.

  Sorry, Duck man.

  Jt Daniels is so much better than your quarterback.

  This isn't a f****** bias thing.

  That's an edge that Oregon State never has in this rivalry or in this map.

  Not recently, not sure.

  But the fact that even when Bo Knicks transferred to Oregon, I was like, that dude sucks.

  To put it lightly.

  He's had some good games, but I don't know.

  You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop with Oregon and some amazing recruit is going to come.

  Not that we need this to be an anti organ segment, but I was expecting a bigger stick from Oregon this off season.

  I'm not worried that they have Bonicks.

  I think Anthony Brown is better than Bo Nicks.

  I'm not scared.

  Bo Nicks doesn't do anything to me.

  No, JC Daniels, that's a statement.

  That's a move.

  That's like we're here to win the f****** north.

  That's what it says and that's what I would expect.

  So that's what I really hope for.

  And I think it's exciting, even if it doesn't work out totally.

  It's exciting for a five star recruit who hasn't had the College career that a lot of people predicted but is still clearly talented to be in the mix of Oregon State because we have never been linked to a name like this.

  Ever, ever.

  We have never been linked to a name like this.

  This is ten times what Smikooli was and he never f****** came.

  Yeah.

  I think if you add bones, you can start seriously talking about the potential of them playing a New Year's Day.

  You mean JT Dan?

  What did I say?

  Bonicks.

  New Year's ball game.

  Given the way College football works, JT Daniels commits to Oregon State.

  And then a week later we trade JT Daniels for Bonicks in a first round draft pick in the next?

  I think so, because I think if we're being honest, last year Chance was great in some games, but he really struggled, especially on the road to the point where we had seven passes and at least one game.

  I think two, which doesn't tell me that Smith has a ton of faith or confidence in Chance.

  So you get a substantial upgrade in that position and an upgrade to like, you want someone who can manage the game really well and sort of knows what to do on the field and can do what needs to be done.

  And it would just change the game so much for our offense and we have so many playmakers on our offense that we just really struggle at times to get the ball to last year.

  And I think that completely changes if you get JT Daniels.

  Yes, absolutely.

  We got to move on.

  Yeah.

  Terry, you mentioned something earlier about doing back flips for JT Daniels.

  Let's talk about people who can really do back flips.

  We can talk about people who really do back flips.

  And that could be the Oregon State gymnastics team.

  Sorry.

  Your number twelve ranked Oregon, who closed out the regular season this Sunday afternoon at quad meet.

  Number 14, Denver.

  Also number 18, Arkansas, in the house with Nebraska in tow as well.

  The Beaver is pushing a 196 point.

  875 to finish second, while the Razor backs, getting some revenge on the 28th College World Series, posted a one nine 6.975.

  They took first.

  Du placed third with Nebraska coming in fourth.

  But again, a great showing for the Oregon State gymnastics team.

  Jp, let's go through some of these scores.

  I know Maddie Dagan had a big day and so did Jade Carey.

  What else do we need to talk about here?

  Yeah, I want to first shout out our list of the pod, Robert Martinez.

  He's a big gym fan and been a supporter of the program for a long, long time.

  He called it early that they're going to win this meet.

  They need to get to 197.

  Like with two events left.

  He was calling that out.

  We got close.

  We took second.

  It was still great.

  It's a great end of the season, a great finish.

  But what's very cool was the team where it was probably our weakest event finally got a season high on the beam.

  So 49, four seven, five.

  Our other friend, the gymnastics friend of the pod, Warren Gray, mentioned that this is the highest score since 2019, when they posted a four nine five degree.

  They had both wrapped up the event with another quick hitter about Jade.

  It's her fifth individual title today.

  She's got now 41 individual titles heading into tactical Championships.

  That sounds good.

  Especially on her own.

  She's winning every meet as an individual.

  So Jade Cure is good at gymnastics, is what you're saying.

  Yeah.

  You can go.

  Just go look at the scores.

  I mean, all of her events are like 49495.

  I'm sorry, I don't want to take this over from you or freak out, but she got a 9995 or nine point 99 whatever on her beam.

  Yeah.

  How is that out of ten?

  Where was the blemish?

  Where was the blemish?

  Judge?

  Show me the f****** blemish.

  Put this in the headliner Instagram story video, JP.

  And we could also link to the video of Jade's beam.

  Where is the f****** blemish?

  Show me a g****** blemish.

  And honestly, that was also one of her kind of like weakest events.

  And she's come a long way this season with that and probably deserves more consideration for it then.

  Yeah, absolutely.

  Jade is making it seem like we can hand out the judge, hand out tens left and right, but they're hard to come.

  I dare you.

  I dare you to show me the blemish judge.

  I dare you.

  I don't know who the judge was.

  I don't know who the judge was either, but I dare them.

  F***.

  It's a good momentum for next week, whether they head into Petrol Championships.

  I mean, when you lift up an event that's been historically kind of your lowest scoring event and you're still capitalizing on all your other events, things look good when it comes to Championship competition.

  So Bees will go in as the third season the conference Championship and will compete in the night session at 05:00 P.m.

  Pacific Maverick Center at West Valley City, Utah.

  So tune in.

  All right, Kobe for Jim.

  We will be watching and supporting.

  We do need to move on to softball.

  Wayne street got snapped.

  The Beavers lost to Portland State six to one on Saturday morning, but then came back in the double header and won the second session.

  So back to the winning ways.

  Now.

  I believe the overall record went from 17 and three to 22 and four.

  So it's still pretty good for Laura Berg squad.

  And I think that's an overall tournament win, I would say.

  Yeah.

  I mean, three wins out of four.

  A little surprising that the one they gave up though.

  Tony Stepto started that game and you assumed a victory over Portland State as we had won 40 versus their four victories against the Peavers all time.

  But we gave up four in the first and just never really climbed out of that hole.

  But it happens and sometimes you just got to take that loss.

  I think when you play 50 games a year too, that's going to happen.

  We're talking about the baseball team today, too, where people are freaking out on Twitter about us dropping the series finale to the Coughs or serious finale loss.

  Yeah, I don't give a s***.

  I don't give a s***.

  No, but we won game three and four after that loss, obviously.

  Nice bounce back.

  Combined score of twelve to two over a second game versus PSU in the second game against North Dakota State and Stetzo got the win.

  How it's against North Dakota State?

  So she's now eight and one on this young season.

  I feel like Step Toe is such a cool name for a pitcher too, right?

  Yeah, I like it.

  I would get a septo Jersey.

  Yeah.

  Do they make softball Jersey?

  They should.

  I feel like they should.

  Why the h*** not?

  Once again, we'll fix your problem.

  Oregon State marketing Department.

  Benny throwing haymakers.

  I want a softball Jersey.

  Yes, but I also just want a pronunciation guide.

  Still.

  So still waiting for my online pronunciation guide.

  Well, I think we know to point that grievance, too.

  Well, whatever.

  Yes, the softball team is still balling.

  Got to give these laser shine.

  Frankie Hamud hitting.

  40.

  68 like ridiculous.

  1523 Ops.

  Kiki Escobar 38 hits and.

  99 played appearances for average of.

  384 and.

  836 Ops.

  Mariah Mason and Eliana Gottlieb are also pacing the offense.

  It's pretty exciting.

  They're just still putting on the runs and this pitching staff is just sick with it.

  Kiki is still a freshman, by the way.

  There's so many freshmen who are killing across Oregon State right now.

  Futures bright across the board is what I'm saying.

  But that's true.

  Yes, it would have been amazing to just keep seeing the softball team win whatever they're like.

  They're.

  900 a game in a row, but obviously that doesn't happen.

  We live in reality.

  They are 22 and four.

  They're 22 and four.

  Great to take care of business at Kelly Field in Corvallis, Oregon, up next to the softball team this weekend opening Pack Twelve play at Arizona State in Tempe, Arizona.

  They'll follow that up immediately within a trip to Phoenix and Grand Canyon University.

  Sorry, with a double header on Monday.

  But then the Pack twelve homes late at Kelly Field opens next the following Friday, March 25 against Stanford with three straight games at Kelly Field Friday, Saturday, Sunday, get out support.

  What I would say is the highest powered offensive team in Oregon State sports right now this year because they won't give ten to our gymnastics team.

  So they're kind of tapped out on scoring and softball is scoring like 25 runs a game.

  Show me the blemish.

  Sorry.

  Come back.

  Come back to your back.

  All right.

  I'm back.

  I'm good.

  Speaking of maybe coming back to Earth, we're talking baseball.

  Yes.

  We should talk a little bit of baseball before we get out of here.

  So yeah, the Bees, last of the coupes today.

  Jp, whose fault is that?

  Kidding.

  It was a great series.

  A great series.

  In Pullman, the Beavers took two out of three, scored a f*** ton of runs.

  Jacob Melton showed once again why he's one of the best players in the country, dropped the series finale in heartbreaking fashion.

  But JP, why don't you just give me your overall thoughts on the series and now that we've back to back weeks of winning series, but dropping the series finale and if it's anything to worry about, which seems like lighting fire is where they don't need to be lit.

  But just maybe what you've noticed while watching these games.

  Yeah, Betty pointed out obviously the two straight Sundays losing the series finale, the Sunday pitching, we're in a tough spot with Frisch looking at potential Tommy John.

  I haven't heard any confirmation, but there are rumors that that's likely Phoenix is still out.

  So we just don't have the starting pitching depth that we began the season with and looked so promising.

  Obviously, Jerpy still a boss like his start Friday was phenomenal.

  But what happened today really was the office just kind of went cold and pitching became normal.

  I don't know it wasn't bad, but we didn't record a strikeout to the 6th inning, which is okay.

  Right?

  But our defense wasn't playing great either.

  And so getting the ball in place, baseball is not always the way you want to play.

  We put it on to begin the game.

  Everything looked good, everything was clicking on offense, but we just went stale until we kind of just needed to run.

  And it was like we were at five to one and then six to four and then seven to four, whatever it was.

  Either way, we kind of got an extra run when we needed it.

  But like after that second inning, it just the baths went quiet and that 9th inning was just brutal.

  You kind of saw it coming.

  It was like when the first battery they got walked or hit either way, it was like, okay, here we go.

  They're going to tie it up here with some Gapper or something.

  And they put like on first and third or second and third and scored on a single first and third, and they walked off with another slap hit.

  So it happens.

  It happens.

  You can't win every game.

  You can't crush everyone, every frame.

  But we still won the series.

  Exactly.

  And you want to win series in baseball, you do.

  I mean, wins are great, too.

  You do want to win the series.

  Ultimately, that's goal number one, the cherry on top is the sweep.

  But I'm not worried about our pitching overall.

  So I'd rather see us lose in a really high scoring game in which we had the bats to win because I don't expect our pitching to be perfect every game.

  But I'm still higher on our pitching than I am on our hitting, even though our hitting has been just unfucking real so far this year.

  But just thinking about what the team was last year, the pitching is there for us to make the run, and the hitting isn't necessarily so to see early season losses where I know in the first loss to UC Irvine was a game where the bats were silent.

  But to see this game wazoo after in a third game where they've been getting their a**** beat all weekend like they're finding the swing a little bit, it's not very worrisome for me, and I'm so glad to see the offense alive and well.

  The only thing that will be concerning for me is if we see one or two more series where we win the first two games and then lose the third game.

  That shows sort of a trend.

  I don't think you can make that assumption after two series of winning the first two games and then losing the third game because they happened in completely different ways that third game lost.

  But yeah, I would agree.

  Not concerning right now.

  Just don't want to see that continue.

  Yeah, I agree.

  And speaking of trends that we do want to see continued I talked about this last episode of the one before, I don't remember.

  But that Melton record.

  Watch.

  We did throw it out there that he may have a chance of breaking some long standing records to Oregon State.

  Let me pull the stats up again because I pulled this up in preparation for this.

  He got three more home runs this weekend, though.

  He did.

  So, JP, for any new listeners because we did pick up a good chunk of new Twitter followers this week.

  So I think a lot of people are listening to the Pod for the first time, which hilarious, this is a crazy episode to be listening to for the first time, but also not really.

  We're unhinged in every episode.

  Welcome to the Beaver FAM.

  Thank you for listening to the all right, but JP, just repeat the records that Jacob Melton could potentially threaten this year.

  We're looking at slugging in home run.

  The slugging record and the home run record.

  Both you and Benny are on.

  Yes, he will break it and I am on.

  No, he won't break it.

  Yeah, for both of them and the records 18, the records 20.

  Okay, the record is 20.

  But the thing with Melton on home runs is he clearly hit some in bunches.

  Right.

  He's got two games now.

  He's got multi home run games and he's got two other games.

  He's got a single home run.

  So if that trend continues, then.

  Yeah, I think that he's got a shot still sitting at six right now.

  It's still within reach.

  It might not be a smashed record, but I think you get eclipse at 20 Mark pretty easily if he keeps doing this like two home run game every week kind of offense.

  Yeah.

  I would now say at this point, I think he's going to break the home run record.

  You can still put me on the he's not going to do it.

  I'm not changing my.

  Well, we didn't bet anything, but at the outside of the season, I said I predicted he won't break it.

  I still hope that he does.

  His Sluggie is 911, which is pretty f****** good.

  And the record is in the eight somethings.

  But I predict that he won't break either.

  But it'd be more like that.

  He breaks the slugging, but he did himself some favors this weekend with six home runs and a sluggish percentage of.

  911 overall.

  So there's a really good chance that he gets there.

  And if he breaks both in one season, that's one of the best seasons in Beaver baseball history.

  Maybe the best.

  Yeah.

  If you want to talk about, like a crazy improvement to a season.

  Mellon is now sitting at 28 RBIs through the 13 games this year, which is eclipsing his number last year, which was 25 through 32 games.

  I think he had eight RBIs this weekend.

  That's insane.

  These are video game numbers.

  They're absolutely video game numbers.

  I don't know what else to think about them other than I'm just kind of shocked.

  Right.

  Well, if he stays healthy, I'm not going to worry about Oregon State baseball at all.

  I think that's something can all fall back on.

  Yeah, I agreed 100%.

  So the conclusion of the Belligerent Beef segment on Oregon State baseball is that Oregon State baseball is good.

  Good with two O's.

  With two O's and two DS for a double dose of this pimp in man.

  How does that reference not come up in 39 episodes of Villagers?

  Before we get out of here, we have to talk about women's basketball getting snubbed snubbed snubbed by the NCAA selection committee.

  Actually, not really, because we all sort of mentioned on the podcast, but we didn't think they're going to make it.

  But the past twelve teams, they were actually getting seeded quite highly, so there was maybe a chance of a very low seed.

  Right.

  I still think what we talked about last week, putting a team, it does help to put a team.

  Exactly.

  If they had put Oregon State in the women's NCAA tournament, then they would have had that moment where they got to celebrate and then get ready for whoever they're going to play.

  I don't want to take that away from any student athletes.

  But also, like what we mentioned, they're going to have a better chance of advancing in the women's NIT.

  And for this team, that is quite arguably more helpful than making it to the NCAA tournament.

  You're still playing quality competition in the NIT.

  The NIT has always been a good tournament on both the men's and women's side of things.

  So seeing Ruick in a disappointing year, he now has to do a good coaching job in this situation.

  They need to adjust and try and put a run together.

  They're going to play some teams in other conferences that they would have played otherwise.

  I think this is going to be great for them.

  We don't know what the match up is like yet.

  Has it still not been finalized?

  No, they're not announcing until tomorrow.

  Tomorrow.

  This is out Monday afternoon, so after this is out.

  But we're recording this on Sunday night before the NIT announcements.

  But go to the NIT website and get the announcement of the match up.

  If it's in a city near you, go watch it.

  And then I'll see you at Madison Square Garden in New York for the final.

  H***, yeah.

  Maybe I would add on top of that.

  It'S arguably better that this happened if you're looking for next season, not just for the fact that they have opponents that they could likely play more games and much it's much more probable that they'll play more games in the WNIP than in the NCAA tournament.

  But the fact that they were part of Selection Sunday and you know that they more than likely watched that as a team.

  They had to have watched it as a team.

  Right for sure.

  What's going through their heads right now has to be if just one or two games would have gone our way, It could have been different and we could be really excited today Instead of being really bummed out.

  And that's something that I think you take into next year.

  Totally.

  It's a great motivator.

  One motivator for this postseason tournament, but also carrying into next season just to be like we did get snubbed because I don't think that any of the women on the team Are sitting there being like, yeah, we're only good enough to be WNIT.

  They're all thinking they can compete for a relationship.

  If this puts a chip on their shoulder, I'm all for it.

  H***, yeah.

  Exactly.

  All right, well, that about wraps us up.

  Thank you again to the Payton years podcast.

  Joining us on this episode, the 39th episode of the belligerent Beavers podcast, the first funeral we've ever hosted on the show.

  I don't know if we have a funeral again, but I'm glad we did it and I think it went great and I feel amazing after doing it.

  I'm ready for next season.

  We laid some demons down.

  We buried some not great feelings.

  We threw the salt of the Earth over everything that held us back this year.

  I think we're now ready to move forth and go into the 2023 men's basketball season with optimism renewed.

  That's right.

  And more energy.

  Ready to reclaim what's rightfully ours.

  It's still one of the greatest basketball universities in the nation.

  Rally the legend of Gill Colise Coliseum, Beaver FAM and join us in eternal optimism for our basketball team.

  And I think tonight was a big step in that direction.

  So anyway, thank you to Andy and Sam of the Payton years for joining us on this show.

  Thank you to my esteemed cohost, JP Bertram at JP Bertram at thetrialj.

  Thank you, JP.

  There is a lot of this episode, so thank you and thank you to our Washington based cohost, aka Tacoma Ben, aka bennyel at bennyalen.

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  Benjamin, Lauren, Sebastian.

  Wehe JK Benny with the good quoff.

  I love this episode.

  Shout out to everyone and yeah, we'll be watching more baseball, softball, gym, and women's basketball.

  The WNIT coming up and I know Beaver spring football has done for a little bit, but we'll be glued to them.

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